Ask & it will be answered
“Il ne dépend pas de nous de croire en Dieu, mais seulement de ne pas accorder notre amour à de faux dieux.” This is among my favourite pensées of Simone Weil: “It is not up to us to believe in God, only not to grant our love to false gods.”
Gentle reader is invited to keep thinking about that.
To my mind, we cannot think our way to God, we have not the brains for that. Therefore I will readily concede that the existence of God cannot be “proved,” empirically or even philosophically; only inferred. And an inference, even one that seems dead obvious, may be wrong. I will allow no man precedence when it comes to scepticism of human intellectual capacity. We are idiots, the lot of us, & our chief intellectual capacity consists in seeing what we want to see. It is a quality well expressed by the concept of “original sin”; & those who think they are sinless are not so much blind, as prey to ridiculous illusions.
“The future” was among the false gods Simone Weil had often in mind. She had passed through her youthful period of political radicalism, & walked away. There is no shortage of false gods. We are constantly adapting old & inventing new ones, & it is the limit of the natural human endowment to see that they are false, phantasms, disruptions of our peace. The best that we can do is to reject them; to refuse worship to self-created abstractions.
Whereas, belief in God is quite impossible. There is no logical path to Him: “you can’t get there from here.” His absence from the Creation is total. There could not be any such path, in the nature of things, for we may say with some confidence that the entire universe consists of things that are not God. His very impossibility saves us from confusion with a god who is false. At no point in history could any human being have “found God,” by any effort or science of his own. It wouldn’t have been possible even to create Him: for He is too absurd, too “other.” False gods at least answer to our more immediate desires.
Let me quote another, seemingly paradoxical aphorism from Simone Weil to enlarge upon this point:
“There are four evidences of divine mercy here below: the favours of God to beings capable of contemplation (these states exist & form part of their experience as creatures); the radiance of these beings & their compassion, which is the divine compassion in them; the beauty of the world. The fourth evidence is the complete absence of mercy here below.”
Glibness or cleverness will stand in the way of understanding this passage. The fourth proposition does not contradict the first three.
This, if you will, is why I became a Christian; not in spite of being an atheist, but because I was one. It was the complete absence & impossibility of God that impressed me. Perhaps I flatter myself in memory, but I do not recall being an “agnostic,” or ever having time for agnostics. It struck me as a foolish position, not self-contradictory but beyond self-contradictory. If something were possible, but unlikely, one might take an agnostic position, waiting for further evidence to come in. But when something is impossible, you don’t wait. Unless you are extremely feeble minded.
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I became acquainted, quite young, with the conception of the “Big Bang.” (Verily, I was something of a “science child.”) Though I did not know it at first, owing to lies & misrepresentations in books of popular science, the “discoverer” of it was the Belgian priest & monk, astronomer & physicist, Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître. He called it, “the hypothesis of the infinitesimal Cosmic Egg exploding at the moment of the Creation,” a much better label (than Fred Hoyle’s). Contrary to what is still given out, by way of pop science, he also anticipated Hubble’s Constant — by two years on Edwin Hubble; & was from several other accomplishments almost certainly the most under-appreciated scientific mind of the 20th century.
Father Lemaître was mocked at first, including by Albert Einstein. (Though not by Arthur Eddington, who had had him as a pupil & been tremendously impressed by the clarity of his thought, & his mastery of mathematics.) His hypothesis included the seemingly batty idea of cosmic rays, emanating from the origin of the universe; & strange to say, that was the point that brought Einstein around, in a celebrated moment when it all made sense to him & he began to applaud wildly.
It took many more years for the physics establishment at large to cope with what many suspected was a theological invasion of empirical science. What made it even harder to assimilate: the notion that our universe actually had a beginning at a singular point of space-time, & an expansion rate that can be reasonably estimated. It is that finitude they found most distressing, & to this day they are looking for ways to wormhole out of it, into multiverses & the like, of purest speculation, impelled by a kind of ungodly claustrophobia.
I, as a budding adolescent in the later ‘sixties, had no problem with it, however. A “cosmic egg” is not God. Curiously, this is a point upon which Father Lemaître was also quite insistent, so that when Pope Pius XII referred to his “theory” as a validation of the Catholic faith, Father Lemaître corrected him quite sharply. No, it is a scientific hypothesis, on which no theological inference can be banked, for something more might be discovered & it could all be kicked away. Pin Nature on God, & not God on Nature.
This is all mentioned to dispel the notion that science can lead us to God. It cannot. And in my own case, neither my early embrace of Father Lemaître’s cosmology, nor my early rejection of the Darwinian explanation of the phenomena of evolution, had anything to do with my becoming a Christian.
Here is something that had to do with it. It is a passage from the Upanishads, which I can no longer trace, but find still in memory: “He is not a male. He is not a female. He is not a neuter. He neither is, nor is not. When he is sought he will take the form in which he is sought; & again he will not come in such a form. It is indeed difficult to describe the Name of the Lord.”
This did not convince me of anything, but was a mental preparation for accepting Christ, & Trinitarianism. Perhaps it only could be for me. Let me flag particularly: “again he will not come in such a form.”
The impossibility of getting to God, by any empirical or philosophical method, is what still convinced me. It struck me as odd, however, that almost every man or woman I tremendously admired — scattered over centuries — had got there anyway. My claim to be smarter & wiser than any of them began to pall. Conversely, the discovery that my atheism was shared by very few I admired, & mostly by the stupid & obnoxious, weighed upon my cocky self-confidence. Was it just possible I had missed something?
There was another source of weight, more purely psychological. Let us call this “a sense of sin.” It was growing on me, with the realization that, “objectively,” I had done a few things that were “bad,” as demonstrated by the fact that I instinctively concealed them. And too, felt inescapable shame, & remorse — not only for what I had done selfishly to the harm of others, but for the harm I had done more mysteriously to myself. Gravity, “pesanteur,” weight.
It would take too much space, & be awkward to reconstruct, my reading of that period. I have anyway written elsewhere about my Christian conversion; of an event on the Hungerford Bridge in London. I am writing this evening only about intellectual preparation, not about “religious experience,” although the two will be joined. That preparation came down to: “We cannot reach God. But perhaps it is possible that God can reach us.”
One book is worth mentioning in this connexion, however: the Bible. At the time immediately before my conversion, I was reading it with great attention. I was already familiar with “the Bible as literature,” for I was by my early twenties more literary than scientific. And if you don’t know your Bible, English literature can make little sense, nor any other European literature. But to read something “as literature” is quite another thing from reading it as if your life depended on it. “Attention” is Simone Weil’s term. (She associates prayer with complete attention.)
In particular I became mesmerized by the Gospel of John, in which it seemed all strands came together. Either Christ was a complete fraud, or he was the Son of God. There really is no third option, for a conspiracy of all apostles & all other earliest Christians gets too far beyond the plausible. There were two possible answers, “yea” or “nay.” And more & more I felt, no place to hide.
The first time I asked, “Christ, if you exist, why don’t you just show me,” the tone was quite facetious. But it was a question I found myself repeating, in different ways. Example: “Christ, if you are there, why this hide & seek nonsense? Why do you play games? Why do you toy with people?” Gentle reader will note, it was becoming a conversation; but one consciously between a young man, very alone, & a Messiah, very absent.
The conversation ended, or was rather transformed, as I have written before. It was by the steps ascending that pedestrian bridge (alongside a railway), from the South Embankment. I think I must have asked, so many times, “Christ, if you exist, why don’t you just show me?” that I had finally managed to ask it sincerely. And in that moment I became aware of the presence of some extraordinary light, or flame, or radiance, that I knew to be a Person; to be Infinite Love. And of a voice that spoke one unmistakable sentence:
“I will cross this bridge with you.”
At the other side, as I turned to steps descending to North Embankment, this Person was gone. But as if in the air above & before me, I became aware of another presence, or Person, briefly but so vividly. I can recall trying to reason: “And that is the Holy Spirit, whom I have known all my life; known without knowing. Who stood over me when I was in the cradle.”
All of which may be dismissed by any reader. An aberration; perhaps I was mad. But if so a temporary insanity, for nothing like it ever happened again.
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Science, according to Simone Weil, offers three kinds of interest: technical applications; a game of chess with prizes; & a road to God. It would, she believed, find a source of inspiration higher than itself, or perish.
I still do not think it can possibly offer a road to God. I do however think it can be inspired, & that it will perish without this inspiration; that in light of God, we can see things, even make connexions between things, & seize upon remarkable evidence, to which by our own light we would be blind. It may even offer analogies, useful to poetry & art, philosophy & theology. But in & of itself it is nothing, a zero.
On a religious view, the scientist is examining the Creation, & thus a reflection of God’s glory. On a materialist view, he is examining hunks of dirt. But the phenomena of Nature are the same, either way, & science is only an accounting of them — more catalogue than theory.
God is not His reflection. He will not be found there, in that “Maya” (if you will), any more than a human person will be found inside a mirror, or shadow of himself. This is not where you turn to ask a question, or get an answer. For that, you must turn (as it were) away from the universe, & ask your question directly. Or so I have come to think.
“The extreme greatness of Christianity lies in the fact that it does not seek a supernatural cure for suffering, but a supernatural use of it.” Simone Weil
Ah good — this commentary thread should be worth about 200 contributions at least.
Otio, a facinating column. When you say that belief in God is impossible, a rather charged and ambiguous statement (agnostic, even, or maybe just attention grabbing), am I correct that you mean as you go on, belief founded on one’s own effort or insight, or on empirical investigation, or on anything other than God’s gratuitous mercy? Sorry to be thick, just trying to connect the parts of the column properly for the unsubtle thinkers like me. In a similar vein, God’s absence in the sense you intend does not, I presume, deny His transcendence?
For those looking for a restatement in different terms of what you describe here, I would suggest paragraph 300 of the Catechism.
The Upanishads: “He neither is, nor is not.” A contrast with the “I am” Who spoke to Moses, and then referred to by Christ?
Your favorite thoughts of Weil is echoed in Chesterton: “The nineteenth century decided to have no religious authority. The twentieth century seems disposed to have any religious authority.”
Natural reason, or philosophy, can arrive at certainty of the existence of God. It will not discern all of His attributes (e.g. God is a Trinity), but it will bring us to the knowledge of God by way of inference. A key problem is that owing much to Original Sin, people don’t have the wits or the discipline to stay with a logical train of thought for very long. Thank God for revelation.
Weil is also right about science offering a road to God. It’s a modernist error (i.e. of the sort that brought the Vatican II train wreck) to insist that a religious experience must first be an immediate effect in the soul. God certainly does deal with individuals directly; His normal mode of operation is through the mind and the will. He made our minds; He likes them; He uses of them to direct and lead us.
This former atheist arrived at a state of non-belief chiefly through neglect. Subsequent efforts to delve into the ephemeral religious business — and why others spent so much time with it — were undertaken initially through curiosity. I had no impediments of the sort that would require heroic efforts for a conversion; thus, after I became intellectually convinced of the truth of the Creed based on:
(1) historical and philosophical grounds,
(2) observing the change of character for the better in others who had converted, and
(3) conducting empirical tests at prayer and noting the outcome,
I crossed the Rubicon in Baptism. There was a Protestant interlude of a few years between my atheist and Catholic days, but here I am.
Belly et alia, don’t get me wrong. I am not denying any epistemological or ontological proof of the necessity of God, or any other inferential argument, several of which appear to be slam-dunk. The Thomist account of “the five ways” is actually far more powerful & exhilarating than anyone can realize, who has refused to study them. But if, like myself in youth or our CTC today, one simply denies the certainty of any inference — deductive, inductive, empirical, or “subjective” — one is left right up the tree.
That the same degree of scepticism can erase any other claim to knowledge (such as, “that is a cat”), & reduce us to pure bleating ego, was one of the valuable discoveries of Descartes.
My point is, “proofs of God” don’t convince anybody, & especially not those for whom they are intended, who when cornered in the Clintonite way can still respond, “it depends what the meaning of ‘is’ is.”
It seems to me now that without “assuming the prior existence of God” one can make no rational statement about anything. But it sure didn’t seem to me, then. In retrospect, I am acutely embarrassed that I, as it were, put Christ to so much trouble. But I was what they call a “special ed” case, needing far more attention than students of average intelligence.
(O Felix Culpa! from my own point of view.)
in the Clintonite way can still respond, “it depends what the meaning of ‘is’ is.”
“In what sense is it asserted that all things are one? For ‘is’ is used in many senses.”
- Aristotle, The Physics, Book I, Part 2
I can’t see how one can subscribe to the notion that God is somehow beyond the reach of human reason and logic, and therefore esoteric. Even the uneducated can understand and know God by reading the life of Christ in the Gospels. For those who wish to understand God from the point of view of causation, again, St. Thomas Aquinas’ writings are easy to acquire.
Simone Weil was much admired by the courageous Canadian Christian philosopher George Grant, but she seems more of an interesting literary figure than a religious example to be regarded with great reverence. She appears to have had a self-destructive streak that contributed to her death (from tuberculosis exacerbated by self-imposed starvation). Her great interest in the Albigenses, seems to have eventually drawn her to a loathing of her own body, and wish to be free of it in favour of pure spirit.
Ye Olde Statistician: Touché!
Your Lordship, there is a great deal of misinformation about Simon Weil about. She died of complications from tuberculosis, in wartime. A slovenly & almost certainly mistaken coroner’s report, itself misunderstood, launched this unfortunate myth that she’d starved herself to death. In fact she was physically incapable of eating in her last days, though she kept trying till nearly the end. It is true she refused special medical attention, which she could have got through personal connexions; & had, prior to her illness, also restricted her diet to what she thought the peasants were eating in occupied France. A beautiful woman, she also went to lengths to disguise herself as plain.
She was interested in a great range of topics, & very well informed about many of them, including several sciences. Her classical learning is very impressive. She started from a completely “secular” position in an “agnostic,” non-observing, post-Jewish family; went through an early Bolshevik phase moved by the plight of working-class poor; fought with Trotsky himself; finally rejected Communists generally as pathological tyrants. By her own account she was fascinated with Christianity from childhood, & had several religious experiences as a young woman. Her trajectory was from “free thinker” consistently towards orthodox Catholicism. The account of the priest who said he baptized her is disputed. She died at age thirty-four, still wrestling with profound moral & metaphysical dilemmas.
I mentioned her because she was very important to me, in earlier life. Her burning sincerity & honesty & very high intelligence is apparent on every page. She wrote densely in her notebooks, in a style that does not reward the casual reader. As George Grant wrote in the Idler magazine, she remains the victim of interpreters translating what she is saying into what they can understand. (I thought Grant himself made this mistake several times.) She has been accused of all kinds of heresies & gnosticisms by people seizing on isolated remarks in that “gotcha” way; given her range, it is inevitable.
Her interest in the Albigensians cannot be reduced to a sentence here: things like her notion that the Cathars were preserving pre-Roman religious ideas & religiosity, or her work with Father Perrin on an anthology of “the most beautiful non-Christian texts on the love of God.” Her instinctive empathy for the losers in any violent conflict came into play, for instance in her too-often quoted remark that trusting an official historical account means “taking the murderers at their word.”
It would have been interesting had she lived to old age; for while an inspiring & commanding figure, her moral & intellectual journey was far from complete.
What makes me suspicious about Weil is that she didn’t descend to the level of the common Catholic riffraff and give God his due. This to me smacks of someone who is either a snob, or worried about intellectual reputation, so stays clear of any formal commitment. Publicly becoming a Catholic is a sign of someone who doesn’t give a hoot in Hades what the fashionable eggheads might think.
What I guess bothers me about Weil the most is that she once had Trotsky sitting across from her in a chair in Paris and she didn’t put a bullet in his head. Her chance to become another great heroine like Charlotte Corday was therefore missed.
The five proofs of the Thomists struck me as sufficient evidence that theism is not unreasonable — a more modest threshold. If scientists of a certain stripe say that there is no empirical evidence for God’s existence, one can point out that there is no empirical evidence that opposes it, either.
One can then wrestle with how to prove a negative. It can be done — in Socratic method: by disproving all the alternatives; it just takes a very long time. As Sherlock would have it: “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
Otio, again, a terrific and moving piece.
With regard to your final paragraph, you are quite correct, at least as I too have come to understand it, that asking directly of God this grace of faith is essential. And this idea of the God who seems to come and go, as with you on the bridge in London, whose seeming absence is his real presence and mercy, is really important for people to hear. CS Lewis expressed it in several ways, and “The Hound of Heaven” also captures it. You are a better theologian than I.
But I believe your thought needs to be fleshed out (literally), and this is on my mind for several reasons, not least this week’s Mass readings from the first letter of John (which flow from his Gospel, in particular Christ’s priestly prayer). God may not be reflected in the Maya, but his image is in all persons, and to be seen there — hence the critical commandment to love others as oneself while loving, and in order to love, God above all. The reason, I surmise, that this is very important to keep front and center is that we have to avoid the Protestant temptation to put everything into the direct experience of God, which after a few centuries settles into a variety of gnosticisms, or more often just nihilism.
And of course there is the notion, famously promulgated by St Augustine and so many of his fellows in the communion of saints, of God’s appearance or visibility in all creation.
Forgive the homily.
Lord Beast,
As I understand, mostly from direct encounter with them, the very late or post-Protestants have a problem reconciling Transcendence with Immanence, which they instinctively solve by omitting Transcendence. We then have Pantheism, or more precisely a kind of Pandeism in which God did not so much create the universe as turn Himself into it, in the course of which He lost the ability to consciously interact with it. Notwithstanding, some sort of purpose remains in the thing, expressed as the Darwinian evolution & political Progress for which perhaps our CTC’s runaway train is the apt simile.
“Immanence” is generally the more dangerous of the two terms to play with, which is why I instinctively shy from it. From what I can make out, on the philosophical plane, Socrates was the great figure who “stood athwart Immanence yelling Stop.” He was, & was not, to be considered part of the Great All. And again, as I understand, it is this kind of “relative immanence” that Augustine retrieved, against the gnostic slide, & Thomas Aquinas finally secured for the Church that would remain sane.
In practical terms, we are made in the image of God, & so God is “in” us, but we have free will & may block Him out. This “in” is however beyond human understanding. God is not a generalized “force field,” nor Grace to be taken (except poetically) on the analogy of physical law. He can intervene “into” the Creation in a quite miraculous & very Personal way: Christ. He can come & go, manifestly in Person, or through agency: but again, in ways that pass far beyond our comprehension. He moves, if you will, in mysterious ways.
In considering miracles, it has struck me that we may have a glimpse of the “interface,” as it were. For it seems to me that God acts through natural agencies; that He wills something to happen, quite externally to Nature, but the order is carried through by natural means — so that if we could somehow forensically examine what happened, at every stage we would find an effect that was at least possible in nature, & at no stage find anything completely impossible in nature; yet the cause was entirely divine. He can, for example, raise a mountain, just as we can flex a muscle — by instructing the natural forces that raise mountains so to act, just as we instruct the natural forces that flex our muscles. He has only to will it. It seems to me this must be the case from non-contradiction; that God does not break His own laws. But being God, He does not need to.
Yet I do not advance this comparison confidently, for I foresee difficulties in the analogy of soul/body to God/Creation, beginning in the fact that we did not create our own bodies; nor can escape death.
Let me leave it there. I’m tempted to prattle on about the “reflection” of God in the animation of a sentient hierarchy (from plants through animals through man to angels, &c) but my reader would be much better served consulting the standard Catholic doctrinal sources.
Speaking of Simone Weil again, why do we not see more women today like St. Joan of Arc or the biblical Judith who decapitated Holophernes? Weil described the commies as pathological tyrants but as I said above, did nothing about it when she was only inches away from Trotsky. (Why should Stalin have been granted the pleasure of murdering his greatest rival?)
All this vile modern age can offer by way of women is a pathetic creature like Fanny Kaplan who put two slugs into Lenin which may have been responsible (at least partially) for his later demise by a series of strokes. She wasn’t a saintly person at all, but another commie from a different faction.
When we have more saints dedicated to action instead of mere talk, we will see more miracles.
Viscount, I believe St. Joan would point out that she was Divinely inspired, and that she did not take up the sword under her own steam; absent such inspiration, I think we can give Simone a pass. Also, I believe at Joan’s (second, bogus) trial she testified that she never personally killed anyone. I suppose that might be splitting hairs for the general of an army, but it would at least seem sufficient to put her in a different category of deliverer from a Judith.
The proper priority for Catholic solutions, is prayer, then study, then action. Premature or ill-considered action is the stuff of which the warning, “He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword” was articulated to correct.
Thanks for the homily Sean, although it sounded to me a bit like something Father Bob (pronounced Bab) might deliver at the regular Sunday hootenanny mass.
Besides Charlotte Corday, St. Joan and Judith, I should have mentioned some dynamic males. How about Francisco Franco? Without this great and decisive Catholic general Spain would have been retained by the communists who burned down 250 churches and murdered 7000 Catholic clergy. (Nazi Germany might also have sealed off Gibraltar via Spain and won WWII, at least according to General Jodl.)
I’m sure Franco did a lot of praying and studying before he wrung the necks of the reds.
Franco was the general of an army; Simone wasn’t. Joan was a general who took direction from angelic visitors; Simone had no such counsel. Hope that clarifies things.
Corday’s sobriquet “The Angel of Assassination” was bestowed by temporal (as opposed to clerical) persons; she was a type of French national hero, if not a model of piety. Perhaps a nationalist-minded individuals look to models like that; the rest of us recognize in her an exception and not the rule — certainly not the obligation.
Prayer, study, action is the order taught by Pope St. Pius X, among others. Vigilante and Robin Hood justice have been given the thumbs down by the Church for a long time now. Give Fr. Bab my best.
Actually Sean, that doesn’t clarify things. Franco was a devout Catholic who took necessary action when it mattered thereby saving Spain from being another colony of Stalin and his gang of murderers. St. Joan followed her visions which included engaging in direct military action. She didn’t develop anorexia, hobnob with intellectuals, and moon about solidarity with the poor and oppressed.
The vast majority of Catholics today are a collection of gutless wonders that have brought new meaning to the word hypocrisy. Their voting patterns are indistinguishable from those of the general rabble who champion sodomy, abortion etc. In Canada for example, the political leaders who put the country on a path to something worse than mere paganism, were all Catholics. Our bishops have never excommunicated even one of these apostates. It is a wonder to me why Protestants with any real sense of Christ don’t turn aside and spit when they hear the very word “Catholic”.
So, back to Father Bab, his guitars, druid vestments and game show microphone.
You’re so close. Let me try to help.
Franco was a devout Catholic military figure and therefore a competent authority to lead a war who took necessary action when it mattered thereby saving Spain from being another colony of Stalin and his gang of murderers. St. Joan followed her visions which included engaging in direct military action, unlike Weil who had no such visions and therefore offers no comparison.
Had Weil pre-empted the pickaxe, no doubt she would be recognized for expediting the departure of a monster. That the majority of souls in the pews are not swift at bloodletting is, I suppose, the cross some individuals must bear.
“The vast majority of Catholics today are a collection of gutless wonders that have brought new meaning to the word hypocrisy.” I can’t argue with that.
“It is a wonder to me why Protestants…don’t turn aside and spit when they hear the very word ‘Catholic’.” You should try living in the Deep South. Better yet, try being a convert to Catholicism from Protestantism and living in the Deep South. Oy vay.